[Unedited] Brené Brown with Krista Tippett (2013)
On Being with Krista Tippett
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Are You Saying That Sham Is a Shadow Side of Health?
Shame is one of the most primitive human emotions we experience, Y. A says. The only people who don't really experience shame are people who have no capacity for connection, he adds. "As long as connection is that important in our lives, the fear of disconnection and the pain of disconnection will always be real"
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