
Can an AI Agent Legally Own a Company? Christian van der Henst's Wild Experiment| E2283
This Week in Startups
Permits Could Be the Real AI Opportunity
Christian Van Der Henst argues agents should avoid regulated sectors for now, but could already help founders navigate bureaucracy, permits, and back-office tasks.
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An AI agent named Valerie is running a real vending machine in San Francisco — setting prices, ordering inventory, managing a bank account, and posting to Instagram. And it's not just a stunt. We’re getting an early look at the future of one-agent companies. There’s still work to do to help agents ease into the economy, potentially opening up new startup opportunities.
Jason Calacanis and Alex Wilhelm cover a stacked docket: Christian van der Henst demos the Valerie AI vending machine powered by OpenClaw; Robert Myers, CEO of Manifold Labs, breaks down Targon, a confidential GPU compute marketplace running on Bittensor Subnet 4; Jason calls Bitcoin "played out;" Alex is impressed by Anthropic's stunning $900 billion upcoming valuation; and the guys discuss Big Tech's accelerating CapEx spend, Chinese AI models in Congress crosshairs, and the NBA Playoffs.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro & sponsor reads (Pilot, Shopify, Grasshopper Bank)
1:06 Christian van der Henst: Valerie the AI vending machine demo
4:28 Legal structure: Giving an AI agent business ownership via trust
7:23 Where agents can and can't operate today
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11:48 AI café in Stockholm running on agents
18:21 Plaud: If your work depends on conversations — interviews, meetings, calls — you need a Plaud NotePin. You can check it out at https://Plaud.ai/twist and use code TWIST for 10% off!
19:05 Robert Myers, Manifold Labs: Targon & Bittensor Subnet 4 interview
20:21 What is Bittensor? An "incubator with 128 subnets"
21:08 Shopify: Turn those What If's into sales with the ecommerce platform powering millions of businesses. Sign up for your $1-per-month trial today at https://shopify.com/twist
25:21 Pricing, utilization caps, and why GPUs are sold out
26:38 Who's using Targon? Customers, use cases, and the mom-and-pop data center argument
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35:07 Jason explains the annotated.com vision — 15 years in the making
39:11 Polymarket: Will Anthropic flip Bitcoin by Dec 31?
40:29 Jason's Bitcoin bear case: "It's played out. No incremental buyers."
46:05 MicroStrategy / Strategy updates
52:37 AI compute demand vs. the fiber overbuild analogy
55:55 Congress pressuring startups over Chinese AI models (DeepSeek, Moonshot)
57:11 A16z on the geopolitical risk of Chinese AI models
1:00:08 Reflection AI — America's open source AI champion (or lack thereof)
1:01:26 Off Duty: Knicks blow out Atlanta Hawks 140–89, Jason goes road-tripping
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