Amelia Wattenberger spent eight years as a front-end developer before the title on her business card turned into "designer" — she's been at GitHub, now she's building Intent.
This conversation covers why developers are mourning their old flow state, the eras of AI coding tools from Copilot to CLI to the app era, why the spec is becoming the new source of truth, and what Amelia means when she says the work is shifting from implementation to intention.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 — The moment the IDE stopped making sense
2:16 — The ladder of abstraction, and a career moving up and down it
7:35 — Where the abstraction stops: you can't automate eating ice cream
10:29 — Developers are mourning their flow state
16:02 — Eras of AI coding tools: Copilot → CLI → the app
22:43 — Living specs vs. static PRDs
29:38 — Inside Intent: workspaces as desks you pick up and put down
39:02 — Plan, implement, review — and where the medium goes next
42:46 — Advice for people too employed to pathfind
44:33 — Outro: where purpose lives when agents do the rest
LINKS:
Intent: https://www.augmentcode.com/product/intent
Amelia Wattenberger on X: https://x.com/Wattenberger
Amelia's Musings: https://wattenberger.com/
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