Public Debate: Who's Right?

The standoff between Anthropic and the Pentagon exploded this week when President Trump directed every federal agency to cease using Anthropic's technology after the company refused to remove its red lines on autonomous weapons and mass domestic surveillance. As the episode unpacks the full timeline — from Dario Amodei's public statement to Trump's Truth Social post to OpenAI's deal with the Department of War — what emerges is a fight far bigger than one contract, touching the fundamental question of who gets to control the most important technology of the century.

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