Negotiations, Phil Duman, and Moving to Fox

Dana recounts meetings with network executives, the Phil Duman story, and the Fox move.

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Dana White grew up watching CEOs read canned statements written by lawyers. He decided early he would never do that.

When Lorenzo Fertitta and his brother bought the UFC in 2001 for $2M and handed White a small equity stake and the presidency, the company had five events a year, eight or nine fighter contracts, and no television deal. Previous owners had sold off the merchandise rights, the video library, and the video game licenses just to survive.

The company nearly died. Events cost $2M to produce. Revenue covered half the spending. Four years in, Fertitta called White and told him to find a buyer. Fertitta slept on it, called back the next morning, and said: "Fuck it. Let's keep going."

What saved the UFC was a reality show. White had watched The Contender and identified its fatal mistake: it edited the fights. You let the fans decide whether a fight is good or bad.

Spike TV passed on The Ultimate Fighter. White came back with a new offer: the UFC would pay for everything; Spike would provide airtime. The season finale — Bonner vs. Griffin — ended with the crowd chanting for one more round. Spike executives pulled White into an alley and shook hands on a renewal written on a napkin. Because the UFC had funded the show, it owned it outright.

The television deals tell the story: Spike at $35 million, Fox at $100 million, ESPN at $3 billion, Paramount at $7.7 billion. Each time, critics said the UFC had peaked. Each time, they were wrong.

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Chapters

(00:00:00) Founders Are the Best Storytellers

(00:01:04) Buying the UFC for $2M

(00:02:51) Excellence Is the Capacity to Take Pain

(00:07:58) One Good Night's Sleep and "Fuck It, Let's Keep Going"

(00:10:53) The Ultimate Fighter: A $10M Bet-It-All Moment