George's AI and Mortgage Modeling Background

George Kailas is the CEO of Prospero AI, a platform helping retail investors make smarter decisions using simplified market signals and data-driven insights.

In this episode, George joins Immad and Raj to break down one of the biggest debates in investing today: should you just buy ETFs, or can retail investors actually beat the market?

They go deep into how modern markets really work, why retail investors are becoming more powerful than ever, and what most people get wrong about stock picking, AI tools, and “free” trading platforms.

What you’ll learn:

1. Why ETFs beat stock picking if you don’t have enough time
2. How retail investors now make up a massive share of market movement
3. The biggest mistake investors make: not knowing when to exit
4. Why analyst ratings and price targets often can’t be trusted
5. How platforms like Robinhood actually make money (and what it means for you)
6. The shift from software → data as the real moat in AI
7. Why AI stock-picking tools are dangerous in volatile markets
8. The psychology of investing: why most people need to lose before they learn

What we cover:

00:00 Should You Pick Stocks or Just Buy ETFs?

00:50 Meet George Kailas (Prospero AI)

01:30 Beating the Market with Data Signals

02:15 From Mortgage Models to AI Founder

03:20 Why Data Will Matter More Than Software

04:20 Why People Don’t Trust Analyst Ratings Anymore

05:00 Who Is Prospero Actually Built For?

05:45 Value Investing vs Modern Momentum

07:00 The Big Debate: ETFs vs Stock Picking

07:35 The 1-Hour Rule: When You Should NOT Pick Stocks

08:30 Retail Investors Are Driving the Market Now

09:30 How to Actually Learn Investing (Without Losing Everything)

10:40 Why Exiting Trades Is the Hardest Skill

11:25 Are Public Markets Really Mispriced?

11:55 Why Analyst Price Targets Can’t Be Trusted

13:05 Inside Prospero’s 10 Signals System

14:10 How They Simplify Complex Market Data

15:10 Risk Signals: When to Exit a Trade

16:30 How Traders Use Options, Sentiment & Dark Pools

17:30 Are Apps Like Robinhood Good or Bad?

18:10 The Hidden Cost of “Free” Trades

19:30 Why Retail Investors Lose Power Through Brokers

20:10 Better Alternatives to Robinhood

21:40 AI, Data, and the Future of Investing

23:00 Why Intent Data Could Change Everything

24:40 AI, Layoffs & Wealth Inequality

26:00 The Rise of Crypto Traders & Risk Culture

27:10 Why Some Investors Need to Lose First

29:00 Why AI Tools Are Bad at Risk

30:00 Mercury’s Investing Strategy (Simple ETFs)

31:30 Why They Avoid Complexity in Investing Products

31:45 Fundraising Journey: From Angels to Crowdfunding

33:00 Lessons from Running a Crowdfund

34:10 When Crowdfunding Actually Works

36:00 Mercury’s Acquisition Strategy Explained

38:00 Building an All-in-One Financial Platform

41:00 George’s Founder Journey & Early Exit

42:30 From “Sharky” to Self-Aware Leader

43:30 How Meditation Changed His Leadership Style

45:00 Managing Teams: Autonomy, Mastery, Purpose

47:00 Long-Term Vision for Prospero AI

49:30 Rapid Fire Begins

49:40 Founder He Admires (Jensen Huang)

50:40 Trends That Won’t Last

51:30 What He Changed His Mind About

52:05 Closing Thoughts