
#167 What AI Can't Replace in Great Marketing with Abe Kasbo and Nick Usborne
The NTM Growth Marketing Podcast
Digital ad problems and wasted spend
Abe discusses ad fraud, account purges, and examples like Uber's reported ad losses undermining digital efficiency.
"Brand is your story. That's the one thing that is unique about you." -Nick Usborne
Abe Kasbo is the Founder and CEO of Verasoni, a global marketing communications advisory and agency that delivers integrated strategies for Fortune 500, middle-market, and startup clients, and he serves as a trusted advisor to C-suite leaders on branding, communications, and public relations. He is the author of Irresponsibly Digital, a call to action challenging businesses to rethink digital-first strategies with greater purpose, creativity, and measurable impact, and he has been featured in major outlets including The New York Times, Forbes, PBS, and Fox Business. Abe is an award-winning entrepreneur and humanitarian, including the 2025 Small Business Council of America Humanitarian Award, a documentary filmmaker whose PBS-distributed film The Arab Americans explores 150 years of cultural impact, and a founder of multiple philanthropic initiatives. He is a Seton Hall University Entrepreneur Hall of Fame inductee and holds advanced degrees in public administration, political science, and international relations.
Website: https://verasoni.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abe-kasbo-3828913/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/verasoni
Nick Usborne is a veteran copywriter, trainer, and digital marketing pioneer with over 40 years of experience helping brands and writers create clear, human-centered content. He trains digital marketers, copywriters, and content teams to protect authentic brand stories while using AI responsibly to generate content at scale, through his "AI + Emotional Intelligence" approach. Nick has written for global brands including Apple, Reuters, The New York Times, and Citibank, spoken at leading industry conferences, and led in-house trainings for organizations such as Intuit, Merck, and Walt Disney Attractions. He is widely recognized by industry leaders for his clarity of thought and continues to teach writers how to future-proof their work in the age of AI.
Website: https://storyaligned.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickusborne/
In this episode, we discover expert insights on blending AI, brand storytelling, and authentic marketing.
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