Backing scale-ups with government capital

Why does Peter Kyle think Mandelson was as brilliant as he was flawed? What impact will the new China deals have on UK growth? And does he care what Trump thinks about them? Plus Kyle’s plans to get the UK’s first trillion dollar company.

Steph and Robert interview the Business Secretary fresh from his visit to China. Plus find out what happened when the interview was interrupted by an evacuation…….it involves Ian Wright and a former German Chancellor.

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