Outro

In January, Patrick was contacted by a developer with a unique request. They were applying for a Visa application that would have a better chance of approval if there were articles (or podcasts) about their work. Patrick hopped on a call with designers Luke Li and Cindy Fan of BROKENCIGS to talk about their journey from China to the US, why they’re taking a unique route to try and stay here, and why New York spoke to them.

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