We've Got to Be Whiter Than White

I spoke to a number 10 staffer who'd been working under Boris Johnson during that time. And she said to me, you know, we truly believe that we were all working really hard and doing the best we could for the country at that time. Do you think they had some sort of number 10 exceptionalism complex? I think there was a booze culture. I mean, it was all a bit laddish. You think back, I mean, Jack Doyle, Lee Kane, Boris Johnson himself, some of the other civil servants nearly all males. It was a pretty laddish culture. There was no not enough discipline really. We can't be boozing on a Friday night