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That's right, we're talking soil again. Is there a field of Ukranian chernozem soil sitting in rural New South Wales? Producer Pat joins Matt to finally find an answer.

Plus, rumours of a chernozem black market… is it true, or just a dirty lie?

Thanks to the New South Wales Soil Knowledge Network!

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