Timothy McVeigh and the Rise of Right-Wing Extremism
The Lawfare Podcast
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The Hard Job of Stephen Jones
Stephen Jones didn't really believe McVay when he said it was just him and Nichols. He thought, at least he pursued a global, that there may have been a global conspiracy. And so as you point out, he also repeatedly confronted McVay with his belief that McVay was lying to him. That led to a lot of conflict between the two of them and ultimately a total breach.
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