Now-and-not-yet: living the renewed story

Is The Greatest Shift in Christian Theology Going From Heaven to Earth?

Heaven isn't the point of the gospel—and N.T. Wright challenges the "accept Jesus and escape earth" narrative of Christianity. Curtis Chang talks with Wright, leading theologian and prolific author, about New Creation and his latest book God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal, asking whether the Bible's promise is the Kingdom of God on earth—or simply going to heaven when you die. They examine the "royal priesthood" calling, what this means for life after death and suffering now, and the true purpose of Christian faith.

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03:43 - The Continuity Between Old and New Testaments

05:05 - Reject Platonism and Embracing New Creation?

08:04 - A Vision More Demanding Than The "Ticket To Heaven" Gospel

13:48 - What Does This Mean For Grace, Works, and Human Vocation?

19:53 - Divergence on the Meaning of The Kingdom of God

27:24 - The Problem of Evil and the "Now and Not Yet"

34:59 - A Pastoral Response to Heaven-Focused Theology

40:41 - How Are Heaven and Earth Interlocking Realities?

47:59 - The Royal Priesthood: Humanity's Biblical Mandate

51:47 - Tom Wright's Future Projects and Reflections

Scriptures:

• Revelation 5:9-10 (ESV) - kingdom + priests reign on the earth
• Exodus 19:6; Deuteronomy 7:6; 1 Peter 2:9 (ESV) - royal priesthood
• Genesis 1-2 (ESV) - creation "very good"; humanity's vocation
• Revelation 21–22 (ESV) - new heaven/new earth; God dwelling with humanity
• Romans 12:2 (ESV) - renewing of the mind
• Romans 8:21–23 (ESV) - creation set free; redemption of bodies
• Malachi 3:1 + Isaiah 40:3 (ESV) - prepare the way; the Lord coming to his temple
• Psalm 8 (ESV) - humanity crowned with glory/honor; vocation
• Ephesians 4 (ESV) - new humanity; community ethics

Mentioned in This Episode:

• N.T. Wright's book God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal
• N.T. Wright's book Surprised by Hope
• What is the Bar Kokhba Revolt?
• What is the Mishnah?
• "Teach Me, My God and King" (George Herbert / "The Elixir")
• Tom Holland's book Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World
• C.S. Lewis' book Miracles
• Scot McKnight's book Reading Romans Backwards: A Gospel of Peace in the Midst of Empire

More from N.T. Wright:

• N.T. Wright Online
• N.T. Wright's Speaking engagements
• N.T. Wright's books (Amazon)

Past Conversations with N.T. Wright:

• Good Faith ep. 207: N.T. Wright Explains Ephesians: The Church, Christian Nationalism, & the Armor of God
• Good Faith ep. 128: The Unseen Spiritual Powers Shaping Our World (with N.T. Wright)

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