Distinguishing investing from gambling for teens

In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Collin Martin discuss the state of heightened market volatility driven by geopolitical risk in Iran. Elevated oil prices have introduced an “asymmetric” risk environment, where traders perceive more downside than upside in crude prices if the conflict de-escalates, contributing to sharp and rapid market swings. 

Collin highlights that bond markets, often considered the “boring” part of portfolios, have been anything but. Treasury yields have whipsawed dramatically in recent weeks, underscoring the importance of understanding duration risk. He explains how rising yields translate into price declines, particularly for longer-duration bonds, which can surprise investors unaccustomed to this level of volatility.

Then, Liz Ann welcomes a special guest to the show: Jim Clark, CEO of Boys & Girls Clubs of America. Liz Ann and Jim discuss the mission of the organization and the long-running Money Matters program, supported by Schwab, which has helped more than 1.2 million young people build essential money management skills since 2004. 

Jim explains how financial literacy has become more challenging—and more necessary—in a cashless, device-driven world where spending and debt feel less tangible. The program focuses on basics such as budgeting, saving, goal-setting, understanding credit, and distinguishing investing from gambling. Data from Boys & Girls Clubs shows that their alumni are more likely than their peers to be prepared for the workforce, employed full-time, and earning more than their parents—a rare outcome in today’s economy.

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