Tracking Internal and External Signals

#268: Learn why setting big goals might actually be holding you back and what to do instead. Chris and Anne-Laure explore how to replace goal-setting with tiny, low-risk experiments that lead to more growth, more joy, and less burnout.

Anne-Laure Le Cunff is a neuroscientist, writer, and founder of Ness Labs, a learning community at the intersection of science and self-development. She is the author of Tiny Experiments and publishes a weekly newsletter on mindful productivity, creativity, and growth.

Link to Full Show Notes: https://chrishutchins.com/tiny-experiments-anne-laure-le-cunff/

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• Tiny Experiments

• Ness Labs

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Full Show Notes

(00:00) Introduction

(01:01) The Problem with Setting Big Goals

(02:42) When Goal Setting Becomes Counterproductive

(03:41) Why Tiny Experiments Beat Goals

(06:07) The Missing Ingredients That Make Experiments Actually Work

(08:29) How an Experimental Mindset Rewires Your Brain

(10:11) How Anne-Laure Adopted an Experimental Mindset

(13:38) What Happened When Anne-Laure Redefined Success

(16:29) How to Run a Tiny Experiment

(18:22) Real-World Examples You Can Try Immediately

(20:10) Why Smaller Is Always Better When Starting Out

(22:28) How to Experiment Without Burning Out

(25:05) Tracking Both External Results and Internal Signals

(30:10) The Simple Weekly Review That Keeps Experiments on Track

(32:18) Balancing Experimentation With Actually Living Your Life

(35:45) Applying Experimentation to Financial Security

(39:33) The Real Reason We Over-Optimize

(42:15) When Optimizing Is Actually the Right Move

(46:09) Balancing Excitement With Long-Term Priorities

(50:12) Measuring Time Differently

(52:20) Simple Rituals for Getting Present

(53:25) Why Experimenting Publicly Accelerates Growth

(57:26) How to Run Your Very First Experiment

(59:26) Where to Find Anne-Laure and Her Work

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