Writer Chris Kelly (The Other Two, Other People) joins to share the downsides of creating one of the best showbiz shows of the past 10 years, having children the gay way (via surrogacy), being a head writer at SNL during Trump's first term, and why children's books written with gay parents in mind has gotta stop.
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