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Alex and Ellis talk about navigating ethics in media and programming the pod, the rise of film photography, and Alex’s trip to OpenAI. Then they’re joined by Granola co-founder Sam to talk about building one of the breakout AI meeting tools. They discuss why meetings are still where decisions actually get made and how Granola is evolving as a product. They also get into design choices, how people use the product in real workflows, and what it means to build tools that sit within your most important conversations.

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