Chris Christie's Relationship With Donald Trump

The possibility that he and his team released the audio. John de Lemire, it's part of his process of desensitizing the public to something that is shocking. He does show off. There's a lot of bravado there. Loves to show off obsesses over his power. In many ways, while he plays in the court of public opinion, they don't really care what people think. They're using these facts to build a case.