Mark Christopher Lee joins me to discuss the controversy surrounding his claims that President Trump was set to deliver a UFO disclosure speech on July 8.

We discuss the two sources Mark says gave him the information, why he trusted them, what happened with the alleged May 1 Washington press conference, and why he now feels he may have been misled.

We also talk about Mark’s background in the UFO subject, the paranormal side of the phenomenon, and the wider issue of accountability when big claims are made in this topic.