In this episode, Jim McDonald welcomes back Martin Kuppinger, Principal Analyst at KuppingerCole, to discuss the rapidly evolving landscape of identity in 2026. With Jeff Steadman away, Jim and Martin dive deep into the intellectual challenges posed by AI agents and the limitations of traditional non-human identity frameworks. Martin explains why organizations are feeling a sense of disillusionment with AI and how a capability-based identity fabric approach can help manage the complexity. They also explore the balance between security and business enablement, the rise of workload identities, and what to expect at the upcoming European Identity and Cloud Conference (EIC) in Berlin.
Connect with Martin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinkuppinger/
KuppingerCole: https://www.kuppingercole.com
European Identity and Cloud Conference (EIC) (don’t forget to use our discount code idac25mko): https://www.kuppingercole.com/events/eic2026
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com
Timestamps
00:00 - Welcome back to 2026 and EIC preparations
02:48 - The shift from future potential to current AI agent challenges
03:12 - Understanding AI disillusionment and the lack of control in regulated industries
05:19 - Security as a business enabler vs progress prevention
09:55 - Why AI agents should not be classified simply as non-human identities
11:43 - Complex relationships between humans, agents, and delegated tasks
15:17 - Self-service identity for knowledge workers and AI productivity
18:40 - The risks of decentralized agent creation and "shadow" AI
21:58 - How AI is being baked into identity products beyond role mining
26:55 - Using usage data to reduce over-entitlements
34:10 - The Identity Fabric: A capability-based approach to IAM
40:33 - Vendor rationalization and the flexibility of the fabric
47:19 - Previewing EIC 2026 topics: Wallet initiatives and consent
52:44 - Final advice: Curing symptoms vs addressing causes
Keywords:
IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Martin Kuppinger, KuppingerCole, IAM, AI Agents, Identity Fabric, EIC 2026, Non-Human Identity, Workload Identity, ITDR, IGA, Cybersecurity
