The Geothermal Bottleneck: Who Controls the Future of Energy?
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Unlimited energy is just 10 kilometers away. So why don’t we have it?
In this episode, deep-tech entrepreneur Max Werner, founder of Hades Mining, explains why geothermal could rival coal in power output and why it still isn’t commercially viable.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
- Why the 10km barrier is holding geothermal back
- The $500 million cost problem behind deep drilling
- Why drilling speed determines everything
- How laser technology could change the game
- Why energy independence is now a geopolitical issue
The world doesn’t lack energy. It lacks affordable access. If that changes, the global power balance changes with it.
Watch the full episode to understand what’s blocking unlimited energy and who might break through first.
Timestamps:
00:48 Why Geothermal Could Be a Game Changer
01:20 How Deep Drilling Unlocks Earth’s Heat
02:00 The Challenges of Going 10 Kilometers Down
03:34 The Full Vision of Scalable Geothermal Energy
04:50 Centralized or Decentralized Energy Model
05:41 Europe’s Critical Minerals Wake-Up Call
08:13 Why Drilling Costs Block Progress
09:29 Connecting Geothermal and Critical Minerals
10:47 How the Fiber Laser Drill Works
13:21 Best Geographies for Geothermal
14:54 When Geothermal Becomes Mainstream
16:00 The Biggest Myth About Geothermal
16:41 Germany’s Geothermal Acceleration Act
18:26 The Future of Surgical Mining
21:13 Europe’s Untapped Critical Minerals
22:53 Lessons from a Deep Tech Founder
25:07 Pain Tolerance in Entrepreneurship
27:25 The Reality of Building in Deep Tech
29:05 A Proud NATO Moment
30:23 Optimism for Europe’s Future
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