The Big Three

"If you can get rid of Ukraine as a blister, as a cancer on the free world and let the Russian know for once and for all that they'll not be able to bully anyone because we know there's no teeth there," he says. "And Ukraine still being a free and fair country, maybe a part of the European Union, that would even be more worth it." The former Secretary of State has got a book coming out in January, but we'll discuss it with us here too.