Outro

The sisters are THRILLED to welcome poet, Zen master and Indigenous Hawaiian leader Roshi Norma Wong back to the show! Her new book is part story-poem-instruction manual. It's called Who We Are Becoming Matters and is now available wherever books are sold! CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT
AN INDIE BOOKSELLER.
In this conversation they discuss Minneapolis, Norma's cool hand clasp model to show how our minds and feelings can sync up or not, dealing with trauma and grief, especially with all the chaos around us, what discipline entails and the true meaning of Aloha.

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