
Katy Payne — In the Presence of Elephants and Whales
On Being with Krista Tippett
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I'm a Pacifist, Right?
Wri: Calling, i think, is a terrible thing to do. What you have in the aftermath of a call is a displaced, disrupted, a dismemberedp ation with all the same sorts of problems that you get when that happens in a war zone. I'm just disturbed about it too. Wri: You're as aware of the complexity of these clashes as any one could be in the real needs that are on each side. Yes, i just am.
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