Andrew and Justin reconvene to discuss Anthropic's recent claims that Chinese AI labs are utilizing Claude to improve their own models, before turning their attention to Anthropic's ongoing rocky relationship with the Pentagon. Elsewhere, the two ponder what's happening with local town board meetings grabbing headlines for turning away data centers — and whether a NIMBY response to data centers could cost these towns more than they thing — before Justin shares his experience of building his first iOS app with Codex.
Chapters
00:00 - Intro
01:30 - Anthropic and China
14:11 - Anthropic and the Pentagon
21:05 - Data Centers vs. Town Boards
36:13 - Codex and Utilizing AI Intelligently
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