Storytelling mistakes on stages and podcasts

The story you never tell is the one that could have changed everything.

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Kindra Hall, best-selling author, keynote speaker, and expert on strategic storytelling in business. Kindra has spent over a decade teaching leaders how to stop communicating in marketing copy and start connecting through the one thing the human brain is biologically wired to receive: a story. In this conversation, Michael and Kindra unpack why storytelling is the most underused tool in a leader's arsenal, what separates the stories that convert from the ones that fade, and how the narratives we tell ourselves are either fueling or quietly sabotaging our potential.

Here's what you'll learn:

• The four essential business stories every firm owner needs and how to tell each one without sounding self-indulgent or salesy
• Why customer stories that start with the win are missing the most important part, and how to fix them so prospects actually see themselves in the story
• How to identify the limiting internal stories holding you back and use your own history to rewrite the ones keeping you stuck

Your story isn't just how you got here. It's the most strategic asset you have. Are you using it?

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Show Notes:

• 02:38 — Kindra's origin story and how a fifth-grade assignment launched a career in storytelling.
• 08:09 — Why AI saturation is driving leaders back to human connection and storytelling.
• 09:36 — What the best brands get right about storytelling and where most go wrong.
• 12:07 — The neuroscience of attention and why the brain is biologically wired to receive stories.
• 14:11 — The four essential business stories every leader needs to master.
• 14:47 — How to tell your founder story without making it about you.
• 18:04 — Why most client testimonials fail and what a great customer story actually looks like.
• 25:44 — The internal stories that keep leaders stuck and how to rewrite them.

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Links & Resources:

• Kindra Hall
• Stories That Stick by Kindra Hall
• Choose Your Story, Change Your Life by Kindra Hall
• National Storytelling Festival
• Airbnb
• Buffalo Bills

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Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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