Dealing with 'squirmies' and fostering collaboration

Most contractors never see how a $1B home improvement business actually runs

behind the scenes.

Scaling sounds exciting. In reality, it gets messy fast.

Michael Hoy helped turn Great Day Home Improvements from roughly $100M into a $1

BILLION business with more than 300 locations nationwide.

Very few contractors ever experience that level of small business growth.

If you’re scaling a contracting business, this episode reveals the contractor growth

strategies and leadership discipline that made that expansion possible.

Michael also explains the thinking behind the decisions.

The kind of thinking that separates everyday operators from an entrepreneur building

something much bigger.

In this episode, Michael shares:

🔥 The ONE hiring question he asks every sales rep that instantly reveals whether they

will protect your margins... or destroy your home improvement sales

🔥 Why raising prices should never be a dramatic announcement (and the simple

pricing rhythm that keeps sales teams from revolting)

🔥 The overlooked KPI he tracks INSTEAD of close rate (this exposes the true strength

of your sales system)

🔥 How financing turns “your price is too high” into a signed contract and helps stabilize

contractor cash flow

🔥 What really happens when private equity starts knocking on the door of your home

improvement business... and how Michael structured the deal without giving up control

If you're serious about growing a home improvement business and want a clearer look

at how top operators scale companies like this, this episode is packed with insights you

can apply immediately.

Key Highlights:

(00:00) Intro

(00:57) From pumping gas illegally to getting run over by a car... the wild origin story of

a $1B home improvement leader

(06:04) The risky marketing bet during COVID that helped scale a contracting business

nationwide

(07:19) Private equity vs entrepreneur control: the real pros and cons contractors never

hear

(09:47) The brutal reality of contractor growth: why scaling a home improvement

business is so hard

(11:18) Why controlling your product from start to finish can transform a contracting

business

(12:47) The surprising lesson sunrooms taught about selling complex home

improvement projects

(13:56) The KPI Michael tracks instead of close rate (and why most contractor sales

teams measure the WRONG number)

(15:59) The unconventional private equity deal that kept Michael in control

(19:39) The hiring question that instantly exposes weak contractor sales reps

(21:38) Why contractor sales teams revolt when you raise prices (and how to stop it)

(22:45) The simple question top sales reps ask early in the home that kills the “let me

think about it” objection

(24:08) Financing secrets that turn “your price is too high” into signed home

improvement deals

(25:23) Uncomfortable truth: your home improvement business grows at the speed of

the leader

(26:08) The G.A.S. culture test every high-performing contractor team must have

(30:34) “Hanging with Hoy”: How Michael aligns 5,000 employees across 300 locations

(33:16) The leadership problems (a.k.a. “squirmies”) that quietly destroy company

culture

(34:37) The entrepreneur mindset shift that turns every business problem into an

opportunity

(35:44) The best advice this billion-dollar contractor ever received

Key Highlights:

(00:00) Intro

(01:27) From pumping gas illegally to getting run over by a car... the wild origin story of

a $1B home improvement leader

(06:34) The risky marketing bet during COVID that helped scale a contracting business

nationwide

(07:49) Private equity vs entrepreneur control: the real pros and cons contractors never

hear

(10:17) The brutal reality of contractor growth: why scaling a home improvement

business is so hard

(11:48) Why controlling your product from start to finish can transform a contracting

business

(13:17) The surprising lesson sunrooms taught about selling complex home

improvement projects

(14:26) The KPI Michael tracks instead of close rate (and why most contractor sales

teams measure the WRONG number)

(16:29) The unconventional private equity deal that kept Michael in control

(20:09) The hiring question that instantly exposes weak contractor sales reps

(22:08) Why contractor sales teams revolt when you raise prices (and how to stop it)

(23:15) The simple question top sales reps ask early in the home that kills the “let me

think about it” objection

(24:38) Financing secrets that turn “your price is too high” into signed home

improvement deals

(25:53) Uncomfortable truth: your home improvement business grows at the speed of

the leader

(26:38) The G.A.S. culture test every high-performing contractor team must have

(31:04) “Hanging with Hoy”: How Michael aligns 5,000 employees across 300 locations

(33:46) The leadership problems (a.k.a. “squirmies”) that quietly destroy company

culture

(35:07) The entrepreneur mindset shift that turns every business problem into an

opportunity

(36:14) The best advice this billion-dollar contractor ever received

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