Zenith or Grand Seiko?

I think the Tenta Graph is an interesting release for them, you know, their first mechanical chronograph. That's a big deal. I still think that dive watch is unbelievable. The Octofenissimo is an amazing watch. But there is criticism and it's fair that it's really thin and really wide. It's like having a, like a book on your hand, like a Asseline style book on yourhand. And this is not that. They've got some heat for sure.