This episode might be my most unhinged and enlightening one yet.

The first half is a live coaching session where I fully spiral about my impatience and need for constant clarity (yes, I’m aware of the irony).

In the second half, we go deep on how your leadership style isn’t just who you are, but it’s who work and past experiences have trained you to be.

My guest, leadership coach Mary Pat Jacobs, helps me unpack the mess with empathy, humor, and more therapy-adjacent insights than I was emotionally prepared for.

Buckle up and get ready to take some notes, friends!

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0:04:12 - The Coaching Agreement

0:07:42 - Determining Success During Coaching

0:18:41 - The Story Hebba Tells Herself About Disappointment

0:27:23 - How Feeling Disappointment Impacts Hebba

0:42:31 - Patterns that Most OFten Shape How Leaders Show up at Work

0:46:21 - How Early Career Experiences Subtly Shape Default Leadership Styles

0:51:22 - Helping Separate Who People Are From What Work Taught Them to Be

0:54:28 - A Belief Most Professionals Need to Unlearn to Grow

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