Measuring success beyond speed

AI is transforming the way work gets done—but great leadership still comes down to people. In this episode of The Career Contessa Podcast, Lauren McGoodwin welcomes back Julie Zhuo, author of The Making of a Manager and co-founder of Sundial, to discuss how managers can lead effectively in the AI era, beyond productivity metrics and tools. You'll learn:

• Why AI-driven productivity doesn’t equal team success—and what leaders should focus on instead
• The leadership skills that become more valuable (not less) in an AI-powered workplace
• How managers can maintain trust, purpose, and meaningful work as AI reshapes roles

Show Notes

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Guest Resources:

Website: https://www.juliezhuo.com/

Book: https://www.juliezhuo.com/book/manager.html

Substack: https://lg.substack.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-zhuo/

X: https://x.com/joulee 

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