Can You Measure the ROI of a Super Bowl Ad?
Mostly Growth
Brand as Moat and Bottom-Funnel Effects
Kyle and CJ discuss how brand creates trust, impacts conversion and retention, and acts as a long-term moat.
In this episode of Mostly Growth, Kyle Poyar and CJ Gustafson unpack the real economics of brand marketing—from Super Bowl ads and CPM math to attribution, incrementality, and PLG arbitrage. They debate when brand spend actually drives growth, why CFOs struggle to measure it, and how B2B companies justify big bets. The episode wraps with Pricing in the Real World, breaking down Rivian’s lower-priced R2 launch, EV subsidies, and pricing strategy under uncertainty.
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LINKS:
Mostly Metrics: https://www.mostlymetrics.com
CJ on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cj-gustafson-13140948/
Growth Unhinged: https://www.growthunhinged.com/
Kyle on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-poyar/
Slacker Stuff: https://www.slackerstuff.com/
Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/slackerstuff/
https://skift.com/2019/01/31/what-is-expensify-thinking-with-its-pricey-super-bowl-ad/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Tgsy7D0Jg
https://www.growthunhinged.com/p/guide-to-marketing-attribution
https://www.growthunhinged.com/p/brand-vs-growth
https://www.themotherhood.com/super-bowl-advertising-guidelines/
https://www.caranddriver.com/rivian/r3
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Preview and Intro
00:01:11 Sponsors — HockeyStack | RightRev | Tropic
00:05:15 Super Bowl Ads, QR Codes, and CFO Risk Assessment
00:08:37 Super Bowl Ads as Ego vs. Economic Signal
00:11:21 Bottom-Up PLG and the Expensify Playbook
00:12:56 Which B2B Companies Can Justify a Super Bowl Ad
00:14:44 CPM Math and Why the Numbers Sometimes Work
00:16:28 Brand vs. Demand and Measuring Brand as Growth
00:18:49 Brand as a Moat and Trust Over Time
00:21:10 Measuring Brand Through Branded Search and Conversion
00:23:22 Attribution Limits and Incrementality Testing
00:26:12 Geo-Based Brand Experiments and Targeted Events
00:28:13 Marketing Arbitrage and Analytics Discipline
00:29:06 Unconventional B2B Marketing That Actually Worked
00:30:33 Predicting Which Tech Companies Will Run Super Bowl Ads
00:32:31 Subscription Pricing Comes to Cars
00:34:18 EV Pricing, Subsidies, and Forecasting Demand
00:34:48 Credits
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