The Importance of Effectiveness in Politics

I would also say going after Trump on the border is a little crazy too. We fired three HSS directors. You know what he did to get the wall? It was Paul Ryan that didn't deliver on the wall funding in Mitch McConnell. And then he paid for it and Bill Biden lets it rot in the desert. So you might say, well, ultimately, Chris Christie has the same R attack. I ultimately, it's he's just not vulnerable there.