Agent Safety: Separating Reasoning from Execution

Leif Abraham, Co-CEO of Public, joins Molly at the New York Stock Exchange for one of the more fun financial discussions on how Public is building the next-generation investing platform “for those who take it seriously." Public represents the first modern alternative to Schwab, Fidelity, and Vanguard — platforms built on decades-old infrastructure that haven't kept pace with today's investors or technology.

The results speak for themselves: millions of users, billions in assets under management, billions in trading volume, and revenue doubling annually as they continue to capture market share.

Public's differentiators include:

• AI agents that automate complex investment strategies

• "Generated Assets" AI-powered custom indices

• Comprehensive multi-asset trading across stocks, ETFs, crypto, options, treasuries, bonds

• Focus on sophisticated investors with real assets to compound

Leif and I explore how their AI-generated defense index hit 350% returns in one month (big surprise, lol), the future of financial advisors in an AI world, and why their co-CEO structure works better than solo leadership. Leif explains why they focus on the top 25% instead of chasing mass market speculation, plus his thoughts on AI, wealth inequality, and what it means for society.

For investors seeking a serious platform that combines traditional financial services with cutting-edge technology, this conversation offers valuable insights into where the industry is heading.

Leif Abraham: https://x.com/leifthunder 

Molly O’Shea: https://x.com/MollySOShea 

Sourcery: ⁠https://x.com/sourceryy 

𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒

YouTube : https://youtu.be/NF-VKevrIzg

𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒

• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery

• Turing—Turing accelerates superintelligence by helping frontier AI labs improve model capabilities and enabling enterprises to deploy end-to-end AI systems inside mission-critical workflows. Visit: turing.com/sourcery• VCX—VCX is the public ticker for private tech, allowing investors of all sizes to invest in venture capital. View The Portfolio at http://GetVCX.com

• Deel—Deel is the global people platform that helps startups hire, manage, pay, and equip anyone, anywhere. Trusted by more than 35,000 fast-growing companies, Deel is the people platform that just works, so teams can scale without the chaos. Visit: https://www.deel.com/sourcery

• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs. https://public.com/sourcery

• Merge—The leading provider of customer-facing integrations and agentic tools for frontier LLMs, Fortune 500 organizations, and B2B SaaS companies. Visit https://merge.dev 

Follow Sourcery for the latest updates!

https://www.sourcery.vc/

Disclosure

Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.