Introduction

The state of demand jen podcast is a mash together allthe different content types, events, interviews and demand jen live. If you haven't already, i would highly encourage you to sign up for thedemand jen live sessions that i'm putting together with catano donardy at seven 30 p m, four 30 pacific, on t Tuesday evenings. Tons of great content in there, lots of great insights, live c and a building a little community inside there. And now to this episode. We were talking about how long it takes a company to change when they want,. Let's say they have this infa structure and they want to change to a different model, they