Dr. Deepika Chopra joins Dr. Will Cole to unpack what “real optimism” actually is and why it’s not the same as positivity or toxic positivity. They explore the research linking optimism to lower stress and inflammatory markers, and how shifting your appraisal of a stressor can change your physiology. Deepika shares her personal experience with ulcerative colitis and how chronic illness can affect energy, mindset, and agency. The conversation also covers why the brain prioritizes safety and survival over growth, and why nervous system regulation is often the missing first step. Plus, Deepika shares practical tools that build real optimism in everyday life, including small actions and the surprising science of music as medicine. For all links mentioned in this episode, visit www.drwillcole.com/podcast.
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