We Made a Document Editor Where Humans and AI Work Side by Side
AI & I
Intro
Dan Shipper opens the episode, previews Proof, and includes an integrated Grammarly promotion before the main conversation begins.
Every has unveiled a new product, built by CEO Dan Shipper. It's called Proof, a free, open-source, live collaborative document editor built for humans and AI agents to work in together.
Proof started as a Mac app designed to show the provenance of AI-written text—purple for AI, green for human. But when Shipper rebuilt it as a web app with real-time collaboration, something clicked. Suddenly, everyone at Every was using it for everything from planning docs, to creative writing and even daily to-do lists. The team realized they needed a lightweight space where their OpenClaw agents and humans could co-author documents and leave comments.
In this special episode, Shipper is joined by Every chief operating officer Brandon Gell, Cora general manager Kieran Klaassen, and head of growth Austin Tedesco to demo Proof live and share how it's changed the way they work. Brandon walks through a loop where his Codex agent writes a plan, Dan's personal Claw R2-C2 reviews it, and the humans just steer. Austin explains how he uses Proof to write a weekly food newsletter, texting ideas to his Claw on runs and watching an outline take shape. And Kieran makes the case that Proof's power is its lightness—just a link you can hand to any agent or colleague.
The conversation covers what "agent native" means in practice, why AX (agent experience) matters as much as UX (user experience), what happens when 10 agents edit one document at the same time, and why some writing is now better read by an AI than a human.
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Timestamps
00:02:00 — Introduction and the origin story of Proof
00:07:24 — From Mac app to collaborative web editor
00:09:00 — What makes Proof “agent native”
00:14:30 — Live demo: watching an agent join and write inside a shared document
00:20:51 — How Austin uses Proof for creative writing and food journalism
00:24:30 — The challenge of multiple agents editing one document simultaneously
00:26:48 — When AI-written docs are better read by agents than by humans
00:29:30 — Brandon’s agent-to-agent collaboration loop
00:37:09 — Proof as a lightweight scratchpad vs. existing tools like Notion and GitHub
00:42:18 — Why Proof is open source and what that means for builders
Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
Proof Editor: https://proofeditor.ai
Proof GitHub repo (open source): https://github.com/EveryInc/proof
Every's compound engineering plugin: https://github.com/EveryInc/compound-engineering-plugin
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