Dan Nathan hosts CNBC’s Morgan Brennan on the RiskReversal Podcast to discuss her path from music and anthropology to Forbes during the 2009 crisis and then CNBC, and how breaking news—an on-pad SpaceX explosion in 2016 and later Trump’s defense-focused tweets—pulled her into covering space and defense tech. They explore NASA’s Artemis program and its refocus on beating China to the moon, arguing public-private partnerships, new contracting models, and rocket reusability have dramatically improved economics, enabling smaller firms to execute NASA missions at a fraction of past costs. The conversation covers how space and defense investing is shaped by demand signals, milestone-driven public comps, venture and private-equity capital, and a potential SpaceX IPO where Starlink’s recurring revenue is central, alongside Starship’s promise. They also discuss deconsolidation, dual-use tech, autonomous systems, changing Pentagon dealmaking, and the growing intersection of industrial policy, national security, supply chains, and resources.
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