Intelligence and the State with Jonathan House
The Lawfare Podcast
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The Value of Intelligence to the Policy Maker
It's easy to place too much weight on what a foreign leader tells you in person, rather than looking at the entire history and the entire array of forces governing that country's behaviour. You may have a leader who engages quite a bit with a particular country or region and becomes somewhat of an expert on it, but they're still not spending eight, ten, 12 hours a day diving in to the minutia that a true expert will do. So i think there is something there that still says intelligence as a profession has value to the policy maker, and most policy makers ultimately do recognize it.
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