At Possible in Miami, Ari Paparo sits down with Mike Fogarty, Head of Client Development, Brand & Agency Partnerships at Tatari, for a fast-moving conversation on how TV advertising is being rewritten in real time.
They dig into the shift from legacy metrics like reach and frequency toward outcome-driven measurement, unpack the evolving balance between programmatic and direct buying, and explore why “convergent TV” is becoming less of a buzzword and more of an operating system.
Along the way, they touch on everything from pause ads and shoppable formats to AI-powered media planning and the future of linear in a streaming-first world.
If you’re thinking about how brands actually drive results across modern TV, this one delivers clarity without the fluff.
Takeaways
- TV measurement is shifting from GRPs and reach toward real business outcomes.
- Advertisers are demanding clearer proof of performance across linear and streaming.
- Convergent TV is becoming a unified way to plan, buy, and measure across channels.
- Programmatic CTV still has limitations compared to direct buying.
- Not all inventory is equally accessible or measurable in automated systems.
- Live sports and major events remain critical for scale and attention.
- New ad formats like pause ads and shoppable units are expanding creative options.
- AI is starting to influence both creative production and media planning.
- Adoption of AI varies, with some teams moving faster than others.
- Data and automation are improving how campaigns are executed and optimized.
- Linear TV continues to play a role alongside streaming platforms.
- The industry is still working through how to standardize measurement across environments.
Chapters
00:00 Welcome & Possible Conference Vibes
00:48 The Shift in TV: From GRPs to Outcomes
01:27 What “Outcomes” Really Mean
02:21 Measurement Challenges & Testing Methods
03:06 Buildable vs. Non-Biddable Inventory Explained
04:43 The Reality of Programmatic CTV
05:20 Sports & Tentpole Events
06:00 Interactive TV Ads & Creative Innovation
07:15 AI in Creative Production
08:08 AI in Media Planning & Buying
09:25 How Brands & Agencies Are Adopting AI
10:31 AI in Execution & Buying Intelligence
11:05 The Future of Convergent TV
12:12 Closing Thoughts
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