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#372: Phoenix Rising (Part 1)

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It Takes Great Effort

"You're forever connected to this monster. And we, we are in a position where society puts that label on us and we adoptit," she says. "I think if we start to divorce ourselves from that language, it's, it also helps divorcing ourselves from that connection", he adds. 'It takes great effort,' Lisa Ling writes of her own struggle with being an artist who has been called a serial killer by the media.

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