Fusion's proximity to net energy gain

In this conversation, Kevin Kelly and Dan Pink discuss the future of energy with expert Ramez Naam. They explore optimistic scenarios for energy production over the next 25 years, focusing on solar and nuclear energy advancements. Ramez predicts significant cost reductions in solar energy, making it the primary source of electricity, while also discussing the potential resurgence of nuclear energy and the role of batteries in energy storage. The conversation touches on global energy access, the aesthetics of solar farms, and the implications of these changes for society and the environment.