Office and retail headwinds

Rod highlights office occupancy decline and retail shifts, noting broader commercial real estate pressures affecting lenders.

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In this candid and wide-ranging conversation, Michael Blank reconnects with Rod Khleif, multifamily investor, educator, and entrepreneur, to unpack what’s really happened in real estate over the past few years. Together, they discuss the current multifamily downturn, rising expenses, distressed assets, and why pain in the market often creates the greatest opportunities. The episode also explores alternative asset classes, operating businesses, syndication beyond apartments, and how investors can position themselves for what’s coming next.

Key Takeaways

Multifamily is going through a real reckoning, driven by rising interest rates, expenses, and maturing debt—not a broken asset class.
Separating the past from the future is critical — what happened over the last two years doesn’t define the next cycle.
Syndication is the transferable skill, applicable to real estate, senior housing, self-storage, and even operating businesses.
Distress creates opportunity, especially with forced sales, refinancing challenges, and upcoming loan maturities.
Partner selection matters more than ever — misaligned or weak partners can destroy otherwise solid deals.
Diversification across asset classes and strategies can create resilience during volatile market cycles.