Moving the Conversation Beyond UX

South Africa is not that far south really. Not when you look at Australia. It doesn't, while the seasons don't change as much. They don't need the geography lesson. This is not a geography podcast. No, but this is interesting. Because winter is colder. I didn't know that. Well, yeah. Can I get a cup of tea? We'll save it. Now, remember to keep moving and see you on the other side. You've been listening to UX podcast with James Royal Lawson and Pear Axboom.