Why Heather stays in policing despite hardship

John Regalado is joined by retired FBI agent Tom and veteran police officer Heather to unpack the most revealing moments from their Surrounded debate with ex-Mafia Boss, Michael Franzese. In this follow-up interview, they dig into the deep mistrust between the American public and the FBI, why narratives of "hyper-partisanship" are damaging institutional integrity, and how the psychology of fear, empathy, and the heavy toll of service collide in modern policing.

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