Intro

It’s hard to square US President Donald Trump’s circle. Earlier this week, he said his administration was speaking with Iranian officials. Stocks shot up, oil crashed. Then, Iran denied that talks were ongoing and the US ordered more troops to the Gulf. The FT’s foreign affairs correspondent Abigail Hauslohner and markets columnist Katie Martin explain the role markets play in why Trump’s messaging doesn’t align with his actions.

Mentioned in this podcast:

Iran’s military leaders dismiss Donald Trump’s deal claims

Markets were not made for Trump’s never-ending ping-pong

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