TBAC Gives Agents Minimum Permissions

Vijoy Pandey explains why role-based access fails for agents and proposes tool, task, and transaction-based access with ephemeral privilege elevation.

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Vijoy Pandey of Outshift by Cisco lays out his vision for an “Internet of Cognition,” where AI agents can share context, build reputation, and collaborate safely at scale. He offers a useful mental model for superintelligence: progress has to scale in two directions — up, through better individual models, and out, through networks of agents and humans thinking together. The conversation explores how distributed, protocol-driven agent systems could give enterprises fine-grained permissions, auditability, and controlled interfaces, in contrast to today’s centralized frontier models. Vijoy also walks through Cisco’s internal CAIPE system of 20 cooperating agents, the open-source AGNTCY project, and a live multi-agent healthcare demo spanning diagnostics, insurance, pharmacy, and scheduling.

LINKS:

AGNTCY Project
- Open source multi-agent infrastructure under Linux Foundation governance. Covers discovery, identity, communication, observability. Vijoy walks through the architecture at [00:34:57] and [00:41:17].
Scaling Out Superintelligence Whitepaper
- The technical whitepaper detailing the Internet of Cognition architecture, three-layer stack, and cognition state protocols. Referenced at [01:25:40].
Internet of Cognition Interactive Demo
- Clickable walkthrough showing per-agent activity, intent, context, and collective reasoning across a multi-agent SRE system. Vijoy demos at [01:26:20].
CAIPE Project (GitHub)
- Cloud Native AI Platform Engineer. Multi-agent system with participation from Adobe, AWS, Cisco, Nike. 20 agents, 100+ tool calls, 10+ workflows. Referenced at [00:11:52].

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00) About the Episode

(04:16) Cisco and networking foundations

(13:34) Jarvis and ASI vision (Part 1)

(18:16) Sponsors: Tasklet | VCX

(21:09) Jarvis and ASI vision (Part 2) (Part 1)

(31:46) Sponsor: Claude

(33:59) Jarvis and ASI vision (Part 2) (Part 2)

(34:00) Practical multi-agent examples

(50:02) Multi-agent plumbing architecture

(01:01:44) Agent identity and TBAC

(01:15:23) Internet of cognition fabric