Joe: kids come first until covenant

In this episode, Larry and Uncle Joe are back for another live Q&A with real men from the Dad Edge Alliance bringing their real questions. This one goes deep — and fast.

The first question comes from a man walking through divorce he didn't want, trying to reconcile his faith with a marriage that's falling apart. Joe has lived this exact story — fasting, praying, sleeping in a separate bedroom for 18 months, doing everything he could — and speaks into it with the kind of wisdom that only comes from having actually been there. Larry adds his own perspective, including the heartbreaking story of losing a son to trisomy 13, and what he learned about God's ability to redeem even the worst seasons of life.

The second question comes from Shepherd — a man who is newly divorced, in a new relationship seven months in with a wonderful woman of faith, but feeling the friction of competing priorities: his kids, her desire to be put first, a potential reverse vasectomy, and the nagging question of whether this is really the right person. Joe and Larry both weigh in with hard, loving, and deeply honest answers — including Joe's own cautionary tale about getting into a relationship too fast after a divorce, and the painful price his kids paid because of it.

This is one of those Q&A episodes where every man in the audience will see himself in at least one of these questions.

Timeline Summary

[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities

[1:02] Welcome to the Q&A — and a quick shoutout to the new Dad Edge shop

[2:15] Question 1 — Anonymous: I'm a Christian going through a divorce I didn't want. My wife is a strong believer too. I need guidance.

[2:34] Joe's answer: his own experience going through divorce as a believer, sleeping in a separate bedroom for 18 months, and what he learned

[4:10] Being a follower of Christ and being a mature follower of Christ are two completely different things

[5:37] Seeking the one with your two — how Joe and Ivy operate their marriage around loyalty to Christ first

[6:50] The A plus B equals C equation with God — and why that theology will wreck you

[7:37] What Joe would do differently: stop panicking, stop pushing, and focus on maturing as a man

[10:01] Larry's perspective: it's okay to be angry with God — Father Stephen Gadberry on The Sean Ryan Show

[13:11] God removes things we think are good for us — and sometimes this is a preparation for something better

[14:39] Larry's story: losing a son to trisomy 13 in 2014, the decision to keep the baby, and the stillbirth at 22 weeks

[17:33] Standing in that bathroom, looking up, and asking God why — and what came out of that season

[18:00] Joe's response: our father redeems everything — even the worst stuff

[19:39] Joe's own three marriages — and how God used all of it

[20:08] Living a life you don't deserve — Joe's reflection on grace, mercy, and what he gets to enjoy today

[21:28] Joe shares a personal health challenge he's currently walking through — and why his mercies being new every morning is not just a saying

[23:21] Question 2 — Shepherd: I'm seven months into a new relationship after divorce. She wants to be put first over my kids. I'm at a crossroads.

[28:13] Joe's answer: she doesn't have kids, so there's a disconnect — and until there's a covenant, your kids come first

[29:58] The conversation you need to have now — not after you say I do

[31:09] How Joe met Ivy — determined never to remarry, then God showed up anyway

[32:23] Larry's take: know your non-negotiables before you go further — and be honest about what they are

[35:08] This is what you signed up for — and if you love me, this is the way it's going to be

[36:17] Joe's red flags: she's pushing for the covenant before it's time, and the reverse vasectomy conversation deserves serious prayer

[37:18] Joe's cautionary tale: getting into a relationship too fast after divorce — and the price his kids paid

[40:11] His kids paid a high price for his lack of wisdom — proceed with caution, pray first

[41:04] There's wisdom in many counselors — and the value of having brothers who aren't afraid to call out your blind spots

Five Key Takeaways

1. Being a follower of Christ and being a mature follower are two different things. Maturity in faith means loyalty to the covenant even when feelings don't support it.
2. God doesn't owe you C just because you did A and B. The A plus B equals C equation with God will wreck you. His heart for you is good — even when life isn't.
3. It's okay to be angry at God. Tell him. He already knows. And he meets us in our deepest, most honest emotions — not in the polished version.
4. When you're newly divorced and entering a new relationship, proceed with caution. Get into your kids, get into your faith, and make sure your inside world is where it needs to be before you attach to someone new.
5. Know your non-negotiables before you go further in any relationship — and have the hard conversations now, not after you say I do.

Links & Resources

• Dad Edge Alliance & Business Boardroom: https://thedadedge.com/mastermind
• The Men's Forge: https://themensforge.com
• Dad Edge Shop: https://thedadedge.com/shop
• Father Stephen Gadberry on The Sean Ryan Show — search on YouTube
• Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1462): https://thedadedge.com/1462

Closing

If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: God redeems everything — even the stuff that feels like it's destroying you right now.

Joe went through divorce as a believer, three times, watching his kids pay a price for his lack of wisdom. Larry stood in a bathroom watching his son be born still, looking up and asking why. And both of them are sitting here today telling you it gets better — not because life got easier, but because God's mercies are new every morning and all things really does mean all things.

If you're in a dark season right now, don't go through it alone. Lean into the brothers around you and let them speak into your blind spots.

Go out and live legendary.