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On the episode this week: Nate and Aaron update on the video portion of the podcast. And Aaron gives up plaid for a shirt with a story.

Nate and Aaron talk to Jay Stringer. Jay joins the 4 timers club, the current most frequent guest! Jay wrote a new book entitled: Desire: The Longings Inside Us and the New Science of How we Love, Heal, and Grow. Jay’s new book is a road map to understand identity and create a life you don’t want to escape from! He shares the five desires we all need to be healthy, with lots of useful tips. Other topics discussed include female muscle worship, image management, interpretation, self-sabotage, and how “story” is not intimacy and connection.

Links:
Desire: The Longings Inside Us and the New Science of How we Love, Heal, and Grow



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