Is Ron DeSantis a Conservative or a Republican?

Ron DeSantis is a winner, right? I mean, there's no doubt he's fearless. So does that make him a moderate? Or what is he? You know, so I would say he's a non-Trump conservative. It's just a lot of people on the right and especially Trump's fans have kind of defined conservatism as loyalty to Trump. And I think that dynamic could be giving way.