Practical failure and relational harm of strict frameworks

 In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett talk to Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis the authors of The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families. 

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Marissa’s novels: Storybound, Story’s End, A Sliver of Stardust, A Legend of Starfire, and The 12 Dares of Christa

• (00:00) - Introduction with Marissa and Kelsey
• (06:14) - Children are human beings
• (07:16) - How a certain kind of theology can impact parenting
• (19:59) - Break
• (20:58) - Talking about sin
• (36:45) - The myth of instilling a worldview in adults
• (43:13) - Things Christians need to rethink
• (45:53) - Impactful stories
• (53:26) - Evaluating resources
• (54:41) - Check out "The Myth of Good Christian Parenting"
• (56:10) - Outro